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	<title>Comments on: Fail Factors &#8211; Why Startups Die: The Golden CEO</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Fernander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Fernander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I couldn&#039;t agree more strongly with your assertion that hired guns often kill potential value in companies when they are brought in.  It&#039;s been my experience that the impatience of the venture capital model drives them to push founders to operate their companies as if they are more mature than the actually are.  Your example of the hired gun CEO is a good one but the one I see most frequently is VC&#039;s insistence that the founders bring in a VP of Sales before the product/market/channel/sales rep profile/system engineering profile/... are understood.  It takes a founding team and a set of good VC&#039;s to get a company to $10M in revenue or so before thinking about professional sales or business management coming in.  When founders cave into VC pressure and hire these folks it slows everything down and often creates an unrecoverable slide.

Anyway,  great topic.  Thanks for calling it like you see it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more strongly with your assertion that hired guns often kill potential value in companies when they are brought in.  It&#8217;s been my experience that the impatience of the venture capital model drives them to push founders to operate their companies as if they are more mature than the actually are.  Your example of the hired gun CEO is a good one but the one I see most frequently is VC&#8217;s insistence that the founders bring in a VP of Sales before the product/market/channel/sales rep profile/system engineering profile/&#8230; are understood.  It takes a founding team and a set of good VC&#8217;s to get a company to $10M in revenue or so before thinking about professional sales or business management coming in.  When founders cave into VC pressure and hire these folks it slows everything down and often creates an unrecoverable slide.</p>
<p>Anyway,  great topic.  Thanks for calling it like you see it!</p>
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		<title>By: Pankaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pankaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I loved your article. I have done a startup and gone through very similar experience and think you articulate very well a typical startup experience. An addition from my experience which you should note is sometimes investors too play foul (actually shoot themselves in the foot) by opting for a convenient internal CEO as against a founder who is visionary and truly passionate about the company but not acquiescent to their partisan interests.   Ultimately, this company also ends up in a disaster. In my company I was fired because I was opposed to certain investor interests that were harmful for the company. Investors got a &quot;yes-man&quot; co-founder as CEO who could not provide a vision, made disastrous changes to company culture to assert himself  and began destroying value. A year later I was approached by investors who probably realized their mistake and requested me to join back. But I chose not to join as I did not believe that investors were sincerely reformed. Eventually the company lost all the customers and employees and had to shut down.

Pankaj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I loved your article. I have done a startup and gone through very similar experience and think you articulate very well a typical startup experience. An addition from my experience which you should note is sometimes investors too play foul (actually shoot themselves in the foot) by opting for a convenient internal CEO as against a founder who is visionary and truly passionate about the company but not acquiescent to their partisan interests.   Ultimately, this company also ends up in a disaster. In my company I was fired because I was opposed to certain investor interests that were harmful for the company. Investors got a &#8220;yes-man&#8221; co-founder as CEO who could not provide a vision, made disastrous changes to company culture to assert himself  and began destroying value. A year later I was approached by investors who probably realized their mistake and requested me to join back. But I chose not to join as I did not believe that investors were sincerely reformed. Eventually the company lost all the customers and employees and had to shut down.</p>
<p>Pankaj</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Clifford</title>
		<link>http://www.thebiggertruth.com/2010/02/fail-factors-why-startups-die-the-golden-ceo/comment-page-1/#comment-1170</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 18:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve

I thought it interesting that your article focuses so much on the &quot;luck&quot; of a successful CEO.  Our concept of &quot;luck&quot; isn&#039;t well defined, and often abused. Your usage risks making it into a passive endeavour.  Many people have great opportunities put in front of them in life, but fail to take that opportunity.  Many others do everything the right way, but for one reason or many, they never get that opportunity.  Conversely, a lot of people have an opportunity put in front of them and they grab it by the horns and run with it.  And then the cynics dismiss them as having been &quot;lucky&quot;.

A wise friend once told me that luck is where preparation meets opportunity.  A successful CEO must be well prepared and open to recognizing opportunity and ready to act quickly and effectively on that opportunity.

So I agree with you about the &quot;luck&quot; thing, I just think that our language of luck is flawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve</p>
<p>I thought it interesting that your article focuses so much on the &#8220;luck&#8221; of a successful CEO.  Our concept of &#8220;luck&#8221; isn&#8217;t well defined, and often abused. Your usage risks making it into a passive endeavour.  Many people have great opportunities put in front of them in life, but fail to take that opportunity.  Many others do everything the right way, but for one reason or many, they never get that opportunity.  Conversely, a lot of people have an opportunity put in front of them and they grab it by the horns and run with it.  And then the cynics dismiss them as having been &#8220;lucky&#8221;.</p>
<p>A wise friend once told me that luck is where preparation meets opportunity.  A successful CEO must be well prepared and open to recognizing opportunity and ready to act quickly and effectively on that opportunity.</p>
<p>So I agree with you about the &#8220;luck&#8221; thing, I just think that our language of luck is flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Duplessie</title>
		<link>http://www.thebiggertruth.com/2010/02/fail-factors-why-startups-die-the-golden-ceo/comment-page-1/#comment-1010</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Duplessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you state the issue very well - and I&#039;ll go back to my Warmenhoven example - Hitz/Lau had to go through the same exercise - asking themselves at what point do they need a new/different set of skills to propel the entity through the next phase(s).  

The easiest thing to grab onto when seeking &quot;help&quot; in business is sales.  The numbers are the numbers, and as such it&#039;s easy to gamble in that direction.  I have never met a truly great CEO that wasn&#039;t a (natural or made) salesman.  No one sells more to the CEO - vision, products, direction, strategy, etc.  CEO&#039;s sell.  It&#039;s what they do - covert or overt.  

The problem comes into play when it&#039;s the ONLY skill they have.  A cheesy salesman is bad, a cheesy salesman playing CEO is almost guaranteed to end in doom.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you state the issue very well &#8211; and I&#8217;ll go back to my Warmenhoven example &#8211; Hitz/Lau had to go through the same exercise &#8211; asking themselves at what point do they need a new/different set of skills to propel the entity through the next phase(s).  </p>
<p>The easiest thing to grab onto when seeking &#8220;help&#8221; in business is sales.  The numbers are the numbers, and as such it&#8217;s easy to gamble in that direction.  I have never met a truly great CEO that wasn&#8217;t a (natural or made) salesman.  No one sells more to the CEO &#8211; vision, products, direction, strategy, etc.  CEO&#8217;s sell.  It&#8217;s what they do &#8211; covert or overt.  </p>
<p>The problem comes into play when it&#8217;s the ONLY skill they have.  A cheesy salesman is bad, a cheesy salesman playing CEO is almost guaranteed to end in doom.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Duplessie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Duplessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valid points for sure.  I guess to be fair I should have pointed out that I&#039;m not referring to well intended, intelligent CEO&#039;s when I take this position.  I&#039;m referring with the opposite - those who believe they are above the company, and who go out of their way to destroy whatever good DNA exists, because of their own insecurities or incompetency.  In my case it has always been a Napoleonic complex, but i&#039;m not sure why!  Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valid points for sure.  I guess to be fair I should have pointed out that I&#8217;m not referring to well intended, intelligent CEO&#8217;s when I take this position.  I&#8217;m referring with the opposite &#8211; those who believe they are above the company, and who go out of their way to destroy whatever good DNA exists, because of their own insecurities or incompetency.  In my case it has always been a Napoleonic complex, but i&#8217;m not sure why!  Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Duplessie</title>
		<link>http://www.thebiggertruth.com/2010/02/fail-factors-why-startups-die-the-golden-ceo/comment-page-1/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Duplessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this comment interesting.  Clearly as an outsider, Hurd has been a winner on almost any metric you can name.  I don&#039;t hang out inside, as you do, but am curious if you could point out some of the areas you feel he&#039;s screwed up?  I find him without ego, at least publicly.  I&#039;ve never seen a CEO so less interested in the spotlight, actually.  

And while I love culture, perpetuating a culture of winning is more important than of one that loses.  DEC never changed it&#039;s culture and thus put itself out of business.  The pre-Hurd HP was not winning - it was bleeding to death, so I guess I would argue that living to fight another day, even at the expense of cultural casualties, is preferred to riding the company Taurus into the toilet.

Love to hear your thoughts.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this comment interesting.  Clearly as an outsider, Hurd has been a winner on almost any metric you can name.  I don&#8217;t hang out inside, as you do, but am curious if you could point out some of the areas you feel he&#8217;s screwed up?  I find him without ego, at least publicly.  I&#8217;ve never seen a CEO so less interested in the spotlight, actually.  </p>
<p>And while I love culture, perpetuating a culture of winning is more important than of one that loses.  DEC never changed it&#8217;s culture and thus put itself out of business.  The pre-Hurd HP was not winning &#8211; it was bleeding to death, so I guess I would argue that living to fight another day, even at the expense of cultural casualties, is preferred to riding the company Taurus into the toilet.</p>
<p>Love to hear your thoughts.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: HPInsider</title>
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		<dc:creator>HPInsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting you use Mark Hurd as an example of an excellent CEO. Myself I would put him in the shithead category. Why, he has a the ego and is doing whatever he can to destroy the best bits of the culture at HP (and all the other assimilated companies).

Keep an eye on HP, when the company starts to tank it will happen very quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting you use Mark Hurd as an example of an excellent CEO. Myself I would put him in the shithead category. Why, he has a the ego and is doing whatever he can to destroy the best bits of the culture at HP (and all the other assimilated companies).</p>
<p>Keep an eye on HP, when the company starts to tank it will happen very quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Puneesh Chaudhry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puneesh Chaudhry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed the article and the overall series as I&#039;m myself a founder-CEO, though an early stage, so this question isn&#039;t pressing *yet*, though I personally do ask myself and the board once a quarter - if I&#039;m the right CEO at the moment. 
I&#039;ve often seen people put the cart before the horse: since the founder has never been the CEO before, ergo we must hire a new &quot;experienced CEO&quot; to be successful - very similar to the experienced entrepreneur myth - you should write about that too. The bigger question in my mind that people skip is the reason why there is a desire for the new CEO.  There are two types of reasons: need a new strategy or need operational expertise. Depending on the need the answer is widely different. Typically, it is very hard for an outsider to come in and define a new strategy (I&#039;m not just talking about sales - that is a very important, but is a small part of the strategy) and make everyone in the company adopt a new religion.  Founders, unless they have run out of creative energy, are typically best at rallying the troops around a new strategy - remember they were the ones who made everyone else drink the cool-aid in the first place. How many sales guys (who tend to be the CEO profile most VCs gravitate towards) have done that? If you have a founder with vision and leadership that everyone believes in, but the operational expertise is a problem - which it most often is, especially with 1st time founders - an arguably better route can be to bolster the executive team with experienced leaders with significant expertise.
Don&#039;t get me wrong, I think companies and founders should continually evaluate if they have the right person in the CEO role.  As startups grow many founders can&#039;t scale to perform the CEO role (i.e. provide the vision and operational execution that will take the company to the next level) - but those companies need a holistic CEO, not necessarily someone who was just successful running sales for your favorite public enterprise SW company.  Not saying that profile can&#039;t be a good CEO, but that they need more than just GTM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed the article and the overall series as I&#8217;m myself a founder-CEO, though an early stage, so this question isn&#8217;t pressing *yet*, though I personally do ask myself and the board once a quarter &#8211; if I&#8217;m the right CEO at the moment.<br />
I&#8217;ve often seen people put the cart before the horse: since the founder has never been the CEO before, ergo we must hire a new &#8220;experienced CEO&#8221; to be successful &#8211; very similar to the experienced entrepreneur myth &#8211; you should write about that too. The bigger question in my mind that people skip is the reason why there is a desire for the new CEO.  There are two types of reasons: need a new strategy or need operational expertise. Depending on the need the answer is widely different. Typically, it is very hard for an outsider to come in and define a new strategy (I&#8217;m not just talking about sales &#8211; that is a very important, but is a small part of the strategy) and make everyone in the company adopt a new religion.  Founders, unless they have run out of creative energy, are typically best at rallying the troops around a new strategy &#8211; remember they were the ones who made everyone else drink the cool-aid in the first place. How many sales guys (who tend to be the CEO profile most VCs gravitate towards) have done that? If you have a founder with vision and leadership that everyone believes in, but the operational expertise is a problem &#8211; which it most often is, especially with 1st time founders &#8211; an arguably better route can be to bolster the executive team with experienced leaders with significant expertise.<br />
Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I think companies and founders should continually evaluate if they have the right person in the CEO role.  As startups grow many founders can&#8217;t scale to perform the CEO role (i.e. provide the vision and operational execution that will take the company to the next level) &#8211; but those companies need a holistic CEO, not necessarily someone who was just successful running sales for your favorite public enterprise SW company.  Not saying that profile can&#8217;t be a good CEO, but that they need more than just GTM.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Steve, and great series overall.

This one resonated with me personally because I&#039;ve been in both camps - as a founder (way back when) of a company that recruited in a CEO and now as the CEO recruited in. :)  Funny how life is, huh?

I totally agree with all of your points.  It&#039;s a precarious thing to do to take a company that was built because of a founder&#039;s vision and to incorporate new DNA in.  That probably explains why it&#039;s often not successful.  There is some selection bias in your analysis though, since many companies that recruit CEOs in do so because something needs to change - hence the risk of failure is likely statistically higher.

In any case, this post made me think of the great Warren Buffet quote:

&quot;When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is usually the reputation of the business that remains intact.&quot;

I&#039;ve found that people heavily underestimate the importance of luck in their lives and careers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Steve, and great series overall.</p>
<p>This one resonated with me personally because I&#8217;ve been in both camps &#8211; as a founder (way back when) of a company that recruited in a CEO and now as the CEO recruited in. <img src='http://www.thebiggertruth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Funny how life is, huh?</p>
<p>I totally agree with all of your points.  It&#8217;s a precarious thing to do to take a company that was built because of a founder&#8217;s vision and to incorporate new DNA in.  That probably explains why it&#8217;s often not successful.  There is some selection bias in your analysis though, since many companies that recruit CEOs in do so because something needs to change &#8211; hence the risk of failure is likely statistically higher.</p>
<p>In any case, this post made me think of the great Warren Buffet quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is usually the reputation of the business that remains intact.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found that people heavily underestimate the importance of luck in their lives and careers.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said:

Overall, statistics will bear out the fact that if anything, the likelihood  of screwing up happens at a higher rate with an outside CEO than a founding one.  That’s an easy statement to make as it’s just numbers: most companies have outside CEOs and most companies fail, therefore, companies with outside CEOs fail more often than those with internal CEOs.

This is bad logic. Just because most fail and most have outside CEOs does NOT imply that an outside CEO is correlated with failure. 

Still enjoyed the article though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said:</p>
<p>Overall, statistics will bear out the fact that if anything, the likelihood  of screwing up happens at a higher rate with an outside CEO than a founding one.  That’s an easy statement to make as it’s just numbers: most companies have outside CEOs and most companies fail, therefore, companies with outside CEOs fail more often than those with internal CEOs.</p>
<p>This is bad logic. Just because most fail and most have outside CEOs does NOT imply that an outside CEO is correlated with failure. </p>
<p>Still enjoyed the article though.</p>
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