In the world of startups, there are few sure things–and one of them is that as soon as you are funded, the VCs will begin their quest to find the next CEO of the company. It will often begin quietly, behind the scenes, and eventually make its way into the public eye. It will cause contention with the founding CEO (no matter what) and can cause unrest in the ranks. Big change is always hard. Big change done poorly can be catastrophic.
The motivation, at least initially, was sound. Let’s find a professional CEO who’s been there and done that– in theory, to increase the likelihood of us making a big pile of dough. Sign me up.
The reality, however, has proven to be just the opposite. It is worth spending time thinking about the reasons why.
There are a million ways things can go wrong in any business, but the presumption that you have to have an experienced outside CEO to have a shot is fatally flawed. Overall, statistics will bear out the fact that if anything, the likelihood of screwing up happens at a higher rate with an outside CEO than a founding one. That’s an easy statement to make as it’s just numbers: most companies have outside CEOs and most companies fail, therefore, companies with outside CEOs fail more often than those with internal CEOs.
I am not suggesting that all founding entrepreneurs are quality CEOs–far from it–but those that aren’t tend to know they aren’t early on and are an active, vibrant participant in the process of finding the right CEO for the company. That alone can be the most significant difference between success and failure as it relates to the CEO’s ability to create a positive outcome. If the founder is a believer to the very core, they are more likely to help find the right CEO. If the founder is treated like a necessary evil by the VCs and is not vested in the emotional or cultural outcome of the hire, the odds of a company getting that hire right go down 80% in my estimation.
If you look at success stories, they almost always are ones where the founding team is actively participating in the process of finding “professional” management–not doing so with a gun to their heads. James Lau and Dave Hitz at NetApp lobbied their board to find a professional CEO–for over a year! When Dan Warmenhoven came aboard, it wasn’t because the VCs jammed him down their throats, in fact it was the opposite.
Nothing can kill a company faster than the wrong outside CEO. Sometimes the only fix, if there is time, after the outside CEO ruins everything is to bring back the founder. Steve Jobs got fired at Apple. Closer to home, Sujal Patel watched as Isilon’s outside CEO took the company public and got trashed. Now, with Sujal coming back as CEO, Isilon is slowly rising back to prominence–and doing so the hard way–with honesty and integrity, and perhaps most important of all, with purpose. Sujal has a way to go before he can stand on the same podium with Steve Jobs, but what they both have in common that you simply cannot hire, is belief. Down to their very cores, they believe in the spirit and righteousness of their companies. You can’t hire that. It is or it isn’t. Whether Diane Greene of VMware or Michael Dell (who hit a grand slam, let the reins go to others, and came back), history tells us that the first level rocketship ride to glory is more often than not going to happen when the CEO is in early and is entirely vested in the whole enchilada–not someone that’s forced in along the way.
Outsiders fail for many reasons, but there are some common factors that you should pay attention too.
- Past success: This is perhaps the best indicator of future failure. Think about it: you know how hard it is to hit a home run in this world? It’s hard. It’s a statistical anomaly. You know how hard it is to get hit by lightening twice? It’s ridiculous. Just from an odds perspective, you start out behind the eight ball by bringing in someone who’s already hit a home run.
There is a big difference between bringing someone in because they have real world business experience–ideally successful and unsuccessful–and bringing in a “rainmaker.” I am all for bringing in experience at every level, I’m never for bringing in a rainmaker.
The “experienced” CEO is, to whatever degree possible, a person without ego (at least an outrageous one). They are practical and pragmatic, and their experience can keep a company from making dumb mistakes (because he or she has probably already made them) and can course correct incrementally to keep the entity moving down the right path. They don’t need to be the hero, at least in the eyes of the company itself. They need to be the wise person who actually cares and supports all the great things that make up the company, without having to change those things to make themselves feel more in control. Dan Warmenhoven was that person. Lend grown up, practical business counsel without destroying the culture and value systems (presuming they are legitimate, of course) by injecting your own forced agenda into those matters. As simple as that sounds, it’s amazing how infrequently it happens.
What happens most of the time is the new CEO comes in, looks for the biggest potential problem in the schoolyard, and challenges them to a fight: “I’m the new king of the block people, make no mistake about it.” Assinine bravado 99% of the time, perfect thing to do 1% of the time. Joe Tucci had to get rid of Moshe Yanai at EMC (granted, not a startup situation, but the metaphor applies) because he had become poison. He didn’t do it to assert his alpha male position, he did it to remove a cancer that prohibited the company from taking the next step. People didn’t see it (eventually) as a power play as much as the removal of a gate to progress.
If the new CEO has feelings of inadequacy, you are doomed. They will immediately fire as many as they can and replace them with known quantities (read, “yes men”). Don’t get me wrong, if there is a legitimate upgrade to be made at any position, you make it–but the way you do it speaks volumes. Doing it first and trying to piece it together after is a sure sign of death. Being smart and assessing the situation from every angle first and giving people the opportunity to come to the right conclusion on their own will pay off in spades. No one wants to be told how good looking you are, how smart you are, and how ugly and dumb they are–even if they are.
The biggest reason past success is often a guarantee for future failure is that the world is not static. Things change. What made company A successful in the past might be valuable to company B, but will it really be exactly the same? Of course not. Yet many post successful CEOs act like their formula is the only formula–regardless of current market/business/economic/people conditions. You are almost better off taking a formally successful CEO from a totally different industry than you are from the same one. If it’s the same industry, they are more likely to be inflexible to the possibility that their strategy that once shined is now flawed. It’s hard for humans to accept things like that, and thus they will cling to their “glory days” strategy even as the boat sinks. In a new industry, they are forced to learn the idiocynracies as they go and, as such, can’t be so rigid in their thinking–which can only be good.
- Good versus lucky: A good CEO will always admit they were lucky. Sure, you have to have the experience to act properly and recognize opportunity and potential disaster, but above all, you were successful because you were lucky. If you don’t believe that, you shouldn’t get hired. If you are smart enough to know that you were lucky last time, you won’t assume you will be lucky this time. You’ll use your experience more than your bravado and ego. No one hits a home run without being lucky. No one. There is not a single case, ever, that can be made that states a company executed brilliantly in such a way that it required zero luck. Yet many of our successful CEOs of yesterday actually believe their own bullshit so much that they can’t see reality. This will kill your company. Look at Bob Nardelli: came up a superstar at GE, but almost completely destroyed Home Depot. Carly Fiorina did the same at HP. Success is not a birthright.
- Irrational moronity: While this should be the simplest to see, it continues to happen every day. Companies get so caught up in having to find the next CEO that eventually once they figure they can’t get Ross Perot or Mark Hurd, they settle on a total, unadulterated shithead. This is normally someone who did succeed at some level in a big home run–but not as the CEO. They were “lucky sperm” as Roger Marino (the “M” of EMC) used to say. They come in and not only bring all their “boys” with them, they immediately adopt the only playbook they know, which typically was from a far gone era. Let’s hire 800 expensive direct sales people and attack the enterprise even though our product sells for $100 through the web. This breed tends to appear where the VCs and existing management team are weakest–they get bullied into believing the bullshit. They hope and, as some wise person once said, hope is not a strategy. They also tend to be the ones who get bullied into investing outrageous amounts of money into the company–to support the absurd strategy from 1984. I continue to find this class most astounding, yet I get a call a week from someone asking about some clown I wouldn’t hire to wash my car who made $2M selling for (fill in the blank: Oracle, SAP, IBM, EMC, NetApp, Sun, etc.) back in the day as the next great CEO hope. The fact that a monkey with a basketball could have also ridden that wave gets lost on would-be hiring managers. Success begets success, right?
History is littered with companies killed by CEOs who were formerly wildly successful. Sometimes, the market kicks you in the head and even Superman would end up bleeding, but most of the time, if you do forensics, you’ll find a CEO who is ego and belief system fundamentally doomed the company.
In short, a CEO, no matter when they join a company, has to have:
- Absolute belief in their abilities along with an absolute knowledge that they can and will be wrong.
- The absolute knowledge that luck matters more than skill.
- An absolute desire to embrace and perpetuate the positive elements of the company’s culture.
- A desire to assimilate, not overtake.
- The experience to recognize and ac–and the ability to bring in smarter, more experienced people in areas where they lack that experience.
- Confidence without ego. Empathy without attitude.
- A truckload of luck.
Related posts:
- Fail Factors – Why Startups Die: Hiring
- Fail Factors – Why Startups Die – The Zealot
- Fail Factors – Why Startups Die: The Market of One
- Fail Factors – Why Startups Die: My Personal Failure(s)
- Fail Factors – Why Startups Die: Revenue versus Valuation
Tags: Bill Nardelli, Carly Fiorina, Dan Warmenhoven, Diane Greene, EMC, HP, IBM, Isilon, Joe Tucci, NetApp, Oracle, Sujal Patel, VMware




In this blog I look beyond the obvious and try to find out why people and companies do what they do - and what it means for the rest of us.
blogs




You said:
Overall, statistics will bear out the fact that if anything, the likelihood of screwing up happens at a higher rate with an outside CEO than a founding one. That’s an easy statement to make as it’s just numbers: most companies have outside CEOs and most companies fail, therefore, companies with outside CEOs fail more often than those with internal CEOs.
This is bad logic. Just because most fail and most have outside CEOs does NOT imply that an outside CEO is correlated with failure.
Still enjoyed the article though.
Great article, Steve, and great series overall.
This one resonated with me personally because I’ve been in both camps – as a founder (way back when) of a company that recruited in a CEO and now as the CEO recruited in.
Funny how life is, huh?
I totally agree with all of your points. It’s a precarious thing to do to take a company that was built because of a founder’s vision and to incorporate new DNA in. That probably explains why it’s often not successful. There is some selection bias in your analysis though, since many companies that recruit CEOs in do so because something needs to change – hence the risk of failure is likely statistically higher.
In any case, this post made me think of the great Warren Buffet quote:
“When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is usually the reputation of the business that remains intact.”
I’ve found that people heavily underestimate the importance of luck in their lives and careers.
Valid points for sure. I guess to be fair I should have pointed out that I’m not referring to well intended, intelligent CEO’s when I take this position. I’m referring with the opposite – those who believe they are above the company, and who go out of their way to destroy whatever good DNA exists, because of their own insecurities or incompetency. In my case it has always been a Napoleonic complex, but i’m not sure why! Cheers.
Enjoyed the article and the overall series as I’m myself a founder-CEO, though an early stage, so this question isn’t pressing *yet*, though I personally do ask myself and the board once a quarter – if I’m the right CEO at the moment.
I’ve often seen people put the cart before the horse: since the founder has never been the CEO before, ergo we must hire a new “experienced CEO” to be successful – very similar to the experienced entrepreneur myth – you should write about that too. The bigger question in my mind that people skip is the reason why there is a desire for the new CEO. There are two types of reasons: need a new strategy or need operational expertise. Depending on the need the answer is widely different. Typically, it is very hard for an outsider to come in and define a new strategy (I’m not just talking about sales – that is a very important, but is a small part of the strategy) and make everyone in the company adopt a new religion. Founders, unless they have run out of creative energy, are typically best at rallying the troops around a new strategy – remember they were the ones who made everyone else drink the cool-aid in the first place. How many sales guys (who tend to be the CEO profile most VCs gravitate towards) have done that? If you have a founder with vision and leadership that everyone believes in, but the operational expertise is a problem – which it most often is, especially with 1st time founders – an arguably better route can be to bolster the executive team with experienced leaders with significant expertise.
Don’t get me wrong, I think companies and founders should continually evaluate if they have the right person in the CEO role. As startups grow many founders can’t scale to perform the CEO role (i.e. provide the vision and operational execution that will take the company to the next level) – but those companies need a holistic CEO, not necessarily someone who was just successful running sales for your favorite public enterprise SW company. Not saying that profile can’t be a good CEO, but that they need more than just GTM.
I think you state the issue very well – and I’ll go back to my Warmenhoven example – Hitz/Lau had to go through the same exercise – asking themselves at what point do they need a new/different set of skills to propel the entity through the next phase(s).
The easiest thing to grab onto when seeking “help” in business is sales. The numbers are the numbers, and as such it’s easy to gamble in that direction. I have never met a truly great CEO that wasn’t a (natural or made) salesman. No one sells more to the CEO – vision, products, direction, strategy, etc. CEO’s sell. It’s what they do – covert or overt.
The problem comes into play when it’s the ONLY skill they have. A cheesy salesman is bad, a cheesy salesman playing CEO is almost guaranteed to end in doom.
Thanks
Interesting you use Mark Hurd as an example of an excellent CEO. Myself I would put him in the shithead category. Why, he has a the ego and is doing whatever he can to destroy the best bits of the culture at HP (and all the other assimilated companies).
Keep an eye on HP, when the company starts to tank it will happen very quickly.
I find this comment interesting. Clearly as an outsider, Hurd has been a winner on almost any metric you can name. I don’t hang out inside, as you do, but am curious if you could point out some of the areas you feel he’s screwed up? I find him without ego, at least publicly. I’ve never seen a CEO so less interested in the spotlight, actually.
And while I love culture, perpetuating a culture of winning is more important than of one that loses. DEC never changed it’s culture and thus put itself out of business. The pre-Hurd HP was not winning – it was bleeding to death, so I guess I would argue that living to fight another day, even at the expense of cultural casualties, is preferred to riding the company Taurus into the toilet.
Love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
Steve
I thought it interesting that your article focuses so much on the “luck” of a successful CEO. Our concept of “luck” isn’t well defined, and often abused. Your usage risks making it into a passive endeavour. Many people have great opportunities put in front of them in life, but fail to take that opportunity. Many others do everything the right way, but for one reason or many, they never get that opportunity. Conversely, a lot of people have an opportunity put in front of them and they grab it by the horns and run with it. And then the cynics dismiss them as having been “lucky”.
A wise friend once told me that luck is where preparation meets opportunity. A successful CEO must be well prepared and open to recognizing opportunity and ready to act quickly and effectively on that opportunity.
So I agree with you about the “luck” thing, I just think that our language of luck is flawed.
Steve,
I loved your article. I have done a startup and gone through very similar experience and think you articulate very well a typical startup experience. An addition from my experience which you should note is sometimes investors too play foul (actually shoot themselves in the foot) by opting for a convenient internal CEO as against a founder who is visionary and truly passionate about the company but not acquiescent to their partisan interests. Ultimately, this company also ends up in a disaster. In my company I was fired because I was opposed to certain investor interests that were harmful for the company. Investors got a “yes-man” co-founder as CEO who could not provide a vision, made disastrous changes to company culture to assert himself and began destroying value. A year later I was approached by investors who probably realized their mistake and requested me to join back. But I chose not to join as I did not believe that investors were sincerely reformed. Eventually the company lost all the customers and employees and had to shut down.
Pankaj