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		<title>By: Market Mantras &#124; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tickle Me ESG</title>
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		<dc:creator>Market Mantras &#124; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tickle Me ESG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Steve Duplessie, in his own unique way, rightfully said we (Emulex) were tickled with the announcements this week from Cisco, VMware, EMC and HP around how convergence and 10Gb Ethernet (10GbE) will be used to connect the next generation of clouds and the data center on the whole (See: http://www.thebiggertruth.com/2009/11/vce-between-the-lines/). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Steve Duplessie, in his own unique way, rightfully said we (Emulex) were tickled with the announcements this week from Cisco, VMware, EMC and HP around how convergence and 10Gb Ethernet (10GbE) will be used to connect the next generation of clouds and the data center on the whole (See: <a href="http://www.thebiggertruth.com/2009/11/vce-between-the-lines/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebiggertruth.com/2009/11/vce-between-the-lines/)</a>. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Degagne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Degagne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP...great technology !...Marketing...not so much !... example...Sushi....HP..raw fish wrapped in seaweed...mmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP&#8230;great technology !&#8230;Marketing&#8230;not so much !&#8230; example&#8230;Sushi&#8230;.HP..raw fish wrapped in seaweed&#8230;mmmm</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Toor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Toor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; The world of IT works like this:  When big guys do something, smaller guys follow.

I agree with the general notion that adoption by the &quot;big guys&quot; drives larger scale acceptance, but I believe that may of the &quot;smaller guys&quot; have already led the charge. At Xsigo, we work every day with users -- both large and small -- who are using VMware, EMC, and Cisco products in ways that are already efficient and well integrated. 

A great example is New England Biolabs (http://www.xsigo.com/blog/?p=196), a company that has already deployed these solutions and has infact gone a step further in integrating virtual I/O as well. 

While large scale initiatives such as VCE present a unified front to the &quot;big guys&quot;, my experience is that those initiaves often follow in the wake of early adoptors. So, yes, VCE will elevate the conversation for everybody, but I&#039;d maintain that by the time VCE catches hold, quite a few users(both large and small) will have already gone a step to two further.</description>
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<p>I agree with the general notion that adoption by the &#8220;big guys&#8221; drives larger scale acceptance, but I believe that may of the &#8220;smaller guys&#8221; have already led the charge. At Xsigo, we work every day with users &#8212; both large and small &#8212; who are using VMware, EMC, and Cisco products in ways that are already efficient and well integrated. </p>
<p>A great example is New England Biolabs (<a href="http://www.xsigo.com/blog/?p=196" rel="nofollow">http://www.xsigo.com/blog/?p=196</a>), a company that has already deployed these solutions and has infact gone a step further in integrating virtual I/O as well. </p>
<p>While large scale initiatives such as VCE present a unified front to the &#8220;big guys&#8221;, my experience is that those initiaves often follow in the wake of early adoptors. So, yes, VCE will elevate the conversation for everybody, but I&#8217;d maintain that by the time VCE catches hold, quite a few users(both large and small) will have already gone a step to two further.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Oestreich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Oestreich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; 99% of the stuff sold into this market will 
&gt; remain best of breed “piece parts.”

&lt;B&gt;Amen.&lt;/B&gt; There is a difference between unified infrastructure and unified management.  Taking a systems-view of infrastructure is the next big thing. In some ways, this alliance helps (although I bet there&#039;s still &quot;paging&quot; involved between the 3 products).  Another approach to unified management is the Egenera approach on a converged network, http://fountnhead.blogspot.com/2009/09/ideal-datacenter-in-box-part-ii.html  We should be able to define a server/environment (physical *or* virtual) and then click/instantiate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; 99% of the stuff sold into this market will<br />
&gt; remain best of breed “piece parts.”</p>
<p><b>Amen.</b> There is a difference between unified infrastructure and unified management.  Taking a systems-view of infrastructure is the next big thing. In some ways, this alliance helps (although I bet there&#8217;s still &#8220;paging&#8221; involved between the 3 products).  Another approach to unified management is the Egenera approach on a converged network, <a href="http://fountnhead.blogspot.com/2009/09/ideal-datacenter-in-box-part-ii.html" rel="nofollow">http://fountnhead.blogspot.com/2009/09/ideal-datacenter-in-box-part-ii.html</a>  We should be able to define a server/environment (physical *or* virtual) and then click/instantiate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrey Kuzmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrey Kuzmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; memory virtualization
3leaf seems to have it coming. Poor Panta Systems that had delivered IB-based memory virtualization/single system image in &#039;05, few years earlier than needed :).</description>
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3leaf seems to have it coming. Poor Panta Systems that had delivered IB-based memory virtualization/single system image in &#8217;05, few years earlier than needed <img src='http://www.thebiggertruth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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